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Body Language Expert Breaks Down 'Dog' ...
This is a rush transcript from "The O'Reilly Factor," November 12, 2007. This copy may not be in its final form and may be updated.
BILL O'REILLY, HOST: "Body Language," starring Duane Chapman and Barack Obama, and viewer warning, because I know some of you are tired of her. Rosie O'Donnell with some brand new stuff.
Here now, Tonya Reiman, author of the new book, "The Power of Body Language," which is out next Tuesday. It's kind of a self-help and body image book all rolled into one. Tonya did very well with it.
All right. Duane Chapman talked to "Hannity & Colmes" about his using the "N" word. Roll the tape.
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DUANE "DOG" CHAPMAN, BOUNTY HUNTER:
There's a special connection that I thought I had between me and black America. And I used to say, "I'm black, too." In other words, I... my whole life, I've been called a half-breed, a convict, "king of the trailer trash", this and that. I take that and stand.
So when I stood there and said, I kind of know what you feel like, because I've been there, too, that I felt that I could embrace them, like, as brothers or even as a black women, say the word.
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O'REILLY: What do you think?
REIMAN: He had a lot of open body postures. He seemed genuine in what he was saying. He was, you know, leaning forward. I didn't see a lot of signs that would demonstrate deception.
The only thing I noticed is that, on several answers, he looked to the left. Other answers, he looked to the right. I would have liked to have seen a little bit more of the footage to determine why the switch in the eye movements.
O'REILLY: Well, you said in the past when someone looks to the left and the right, they're trying to summon up an answer. They're trying to remember what to say.
REIMAN: If they consistently look to the left...
O'REILLY: Right.
REIMAN: ... they are trying to remember something. And then they switch over to the right, and you have to wonder why they switched to the right. So the same thing goes...
O'REILLY: So just to know that... for everybody out there watching, if you are looking to the left, you're trying to remember something that you want to say.
REIMAN: Right. But it's not just the left. See, everyone is different. Sometimes, you know, you have to do something called norming people, which is you ask them a couple of questions and determine which way they look when they're actually remembering something.
O'REILLY: Because I think a lot of this was rehearsed with Mr. Chapman.
REIMAN: Well, things like eye movements, you really can't rehearse. I mean, you can be an actor, absolutely, but you know, if somebody looks to the left, they're unconsciously looking to the left. And then if they switch over to the right, that's when you have to start wondering what's going on behind the scenes.
O'REILLY: Why are you looking in both directions like this?
REIMAN: Right. Yes.
O'REILLY: But you need more information in order to really get into that.
Rest of the show not related to Dog The Bounty Hunter issue was cut out
O'REILLY: Can you tell if somebody — through body language, can you tell if somebody is a thoughtful person who believes or just a Kool-Aid drinking fanatic? Can you tell?
REIMAN: No, you really can't.
O'REILLY: That's what I thought.
REIMAN: Because it all comes down to, if this is what I believe — yes.
O'REILLY: True — that's what they call them, true believers.
Tonya Reiman, everybody. Look for her book.
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